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September 14, 2006

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JobTide

That would be really nice to see implemented. I tried a quick search at O*NET OnLine (see http://online.onetcenter.org/find/result?s=administrative+secretary&g=Go) and it seems to work just fine.

Except, if your job titles are all in a language other than english. Suppose that your job board is in spanish, french or any other language. You could query a national service, for instance, the french job code database (see http://rome.anpe.net/candidat/index.php?url=fiche_rome.php&rome=12131&rub=cat&lib_rome=Secr%E9taire%20administratif(ive)& for a administrative secretary description).

Bob Wilson

Hi JobTide,

Thanks for the feedback! :-)

Yes, I think O*NET Online works pretty well too ... I designed the methodology. But, it is primitive compared to our newer product http://www.onetsocautocoder.com/plus/onetmatch

Try the same search for administrative secretary and you'll see that:

1) fewer marginally related occupations are returned; and,

2) the difference in scores between the primary occupation and other secretarial occs is much greater.

But beyond that, O*NET AutoCoder will accept a full job description as input ... making it possible to assign occupation codes at 90% accuracy.

It's interesting that you mention multiple languages and other coding systems. Earlier this week I contacted Canada to discuss integrating their NOC classification system; and in the following post, we're seeking partners to help us add multilingual support.

http://rmwilsonconsulting.typepad.com/onetsoc_autocoder/2006/09/multilingual_on.html

Best wishes!

Bob :-)

jon

I do no think "standard" codes work. There are way too may job title to cover all the opportunities on the internet. In addition jobs vary greatly based on each company. For example: Do you think a project manager for Coke needs the same skill set as a project manager for Amazon.com? There is simply to many variations out the to try to "box" job in. In closing keep in mind that people also want to see where there skills can be applied, not necessarily for a specific job.

Sujith Nair

Hi,
Different companies have different titles. Its better to classify jobs as roles at the time of posting. When searched, just provide a cluster on these roles. A job seeker will be too happy to dig into the cluster and narrow down on the relevant results.

sujith :-)

Bob Wilson


Hi Sujith ... thanks for posting!

I agree, roles are good. In fact, a standard taxonomy of occupations is a collection of roles.

For example, a position with a job title of 'Accounting Clerk II' fits within the standard occupation "Bookkeeping, Accounting, and Auditing Clerks"; and this occupation performs the following roles:

"Compute, classify, and record numerical data to keep financial records complete. Perform any combination of routine calculating, posting, and verifying duties to obtain primary financial data for use in maintaining accounting records. May also check the accuracy of figures, calculations, and postings pertaining to business transactions recorded by other workers."

So I think, when I say 'occupation' and you say 'roles', we're talking about the same thing.

Does that sound right? If not, let me know.

Best wishes,
Bob :-)

Sujith Nair

Bang On ....

tx,
sujith

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